Please Stop Making Fun Of Scientology. No, really.
[Currently Listening To: David Bowie - Low]

I realize I'm way behind with the final installments of the Demonbaby Awards, but I had to break for a moment to get something off my chest. You see, there's a funny little video going around the internets today. You might have seen it. It features Tom Cruise, the notoriously wacky Scientology overlord, waxing schizophrenic about... well, I'm not even sure what about. The clip is apparently from a Scientology indoctrination video, and the "Church" of Scientology has been furiously ordering removals of it from YouTube due to "copyright violations," and threatening to sue Gawker for hosting it. Here's the video, in case you haven't seen it:
It's wonderfully, utterly batshit insane. He's a fucking lunatic, and he's selling a dangerous scam masquerading as a cult masquerading as a religion. And since they're trying so very hard to keep it out of your tubes, I urge everyone to take a few moments to download the Quicktime version here or here or here or here and upload it to YouTube as many times as you can.
Anyway, the thing about Scientology is that outside of its brainwashed devotees, everyone knows it's crazy, and everyone makes fun of it. Its looney sci-fi overtones make for a delightfully easy target, and the tyranny with which its guardians protect it makes it an even more appealing punching bag. But here's my problem: Relatively speaking, Scientology isn't that crazy. No, really. It isn't. You see, here in the good ol' United States, more than half of our citizens (depending on which poll you look at) happily ignore centuries of overwhelming and exhaustively-researched scientific evidence suggesting human beings have evolved into their present form over millions of years, and instead choose to believe that we were plunked down on the earth fully-formed by a mythical being in the sky, because an old book of parables written by primitive people says so. Americans also believe overwhelmingly in miracles, heaven, hell, and that Jesus is God or the son of God. They like to think they believe all this because of some righteous faith in their soul that sin-laden secular heathens like myself could never understand. In reality, it's because as children they were indoctrinated into believing that The Bible is a book of absolute truths, and The Bible says that God created man in His image, and they'd no sooner want to believe they've been wrong their whole life than I'd want to believe that maybe Saved By The Bell was never actually funny at all, and I was just a twelve year old with bad taste. Come on, Screech had some great one-liners... right?
When I was about four years old, I loved stickers. I loved stickers so much that I stuck them everywhere. Every fucking where. It drove my family crazy. They told me I was no longer allowed to put stickers on walls or furniture or my toys, or I'd be in trouble. So fuck it, I thought, I'll put stickers on myself, and one day I stuck them all over my body. I even stuck one on the end of my tiny little four year old ding-ding, covering up that important hole that pee comes out of. I thought it was funny, and to a four year old, who doesn't even really know what a penis is, having a sticker on the end of it is pretty fucking funny. That is, until I had to pee, and it dawned on me that I'd clogged up the pipes, so to speak, and trying to remove the sticker was painful beyond imagination. At that terrifying moment of realization, the young mind produces one and only one result: Bawling. Loud, desperate, tear-streaked bawling. I had to tell my Mother about the horrible mistake I'd made, and she and my Grandmother had to soak me in warm water to loosen up the glue on the sticker so it could be painlessly removed. Why, you ask, am I telling you this, short of my masochistic desire to frequently embarrass myself on the internet? The point here, really, is to illustrate how fucking dumb I was when I was four years old. How dumb we all were. How we were little sponges, eager to learn, looking to the guidance of our parents and our teachers to tell us how the world worked. And at the same tender age that I covered my pee hole with a sticker, I began attending Sunday school at my local Catholic church. At Sunday school my spongy, impressionable brain was told over and over again that God created the earth, and He created Adam and Eve, and He created me, and He loved me, and Jesus loved me, and all I had to do was love Him back and be a good person and I'd get into Heaven. What a wonderful thing to believe as a child. There's a big bearded guy in the sky watching over me, and He loves me no matter what, and He'll help me through thick and thin, and when my goldfish died he went to a magical place in the sky with the rest of his goldfish family and swam in God's big beautiful goldfish bowl, and someday when I died I'd be there too, and it'd be even better than my life on earth. I bet there are tons of stickers in Heaven, and you can put them anywhere! WOW!
Why wouldn't I believe all that? It sounds great, and hell, I also believed that a magical fairy covertly paid me for my baby teeth, and that a giant bunny rabbit got off on hiding eggs all over my house to celebrate the resurrection of the son of God. Besides, adults were telling me all this stuff, and adults knew lots of things I didn't, like why you shouldn't put stickers over your pee hole. But I guess indoctrination is a delicate process, because somewhere along the way, it was too much for me. Later in life it pushed a little too hard, and I stopped buying into it. I think it was when I stopped going to Sunday school and started attending regular mass, and Catholicism revealed itself as being more about guilt than love, and church was the most boring fucking thing I could have ever imagined. I started asking questions my Mother couldn't answer. I started drawing mean caricatures of our priests on the collection slips and leaving them in the Bibles for people to find. I started to call bullshit on the whole ordeal, and my poor Mother, her own faith having grown fragile over the years, could no longer defend it. And that was that. I got out. Most people in that situation aren't so lucky, and hence, America is overwhelmingly populated by people who believe in Santa Claus. He may be skinny and shirtless and pinned to a cross, but he's still Santa Claus.
If I have children and, as their sole voice of guidance in their crucial formative years, tell them that Tommy Lee was an earthly vessel of the almighty Creator, and His autobiography Tommyland contained the universal truths for all mankind and the keys to salvation, and anyone who felt otherwise was simply a misguided soul destined for eternal damnation lest they be awaked to the sacred truths of Tommy Lee... Well, I'd end up with a pretty fucked up kid, but by the time he'd reached adulthood with these superstitions drilled into his brain day after day, you'd have a damned hard time convincing him his beliefs were wrong.
The problem here is that because Christianity is old and widely-believed, we're meant to inherently accept its fairy tales as somehow more credible than Scientology's fairy tales, when really, they're the same fucking thing. So why is it okay to make fun of Scientology in a country that takes Christianity so seriously? Why is it common knowledge that Scientology is a cult that scams people out of money and uses devious tactics to lure people into its teachings, but no one wants to admit the same things about Christian churches? Why is Tom Cruise a lunatic for saying whatever the hell he said in that video, but we'll gladly elect a President who thinks the earth was made in seven days? Why is poor Dennis Kucinich lampooned for saying he saw a UFO, but we're perfectly comfortable with all the other Presidential candidates worshipping an omnipotent being? If you get right down to it, UFOs have far more scientific basis than omnipotent beings.
I wish religion was, like anal beads and Everybody Loves Raymond, something that people practiced privately, in their homes, and it was an individual matter that rarely intruded on my life. Because theoretically, I really don't care what you believe in. I don't give two shits if you worship Jesus or Allah or Brett Favre or The Force or little fucking forest gnomes. In theory, it makes no difference to me whether your idea of a religious experience is saying ten Hail Marys, or nailing your balls to a wooden plank while defacating. It should be no concern of mine. But these fucking fundamentalist Christians have unfortunately made it my business and everyone's business, and because of their insistence on meddling with science and politics, I now have to try and figure out who's the least superstitious Presidential candidate. I wish it would never even occur to me that the prospective leader of the free world might, in the 21st century, reject a basic foundation of science. But alas, this is the dumb, credulous kindergarten class known as America, where, much to the snickering bemusement of Europe and the rest of the developed world, our political leaders have to show up on TV kneeling in front of a cross at Sunday mass to even be considered a candidate for Commander in Chief. And that, sadly, makes religion an important issue - because religion has begun threatening science, and if we start tearing away at science, we risk losing what little sense of reason and logic our country still has left to hold onto.
In case you hadn't noticed, we're in the early stages of an insulting sham of a Presidential election process right now. But as flawed as the system might be, it's still going to result in a new leader of our fragile empire, and no matter who you vote for, on either side of the political fence, you're voting for someone reared on a theology no less absurd than anything Tom Cruise believes in. In this election there are arguably more important issues - like trying to undo eight years of imperialistic insanity and fiscal irresponsibility. But I think a person's ability to weigh out religious beliefs against scientific facts says a lot about their character and informs all their decisions - and since every Presidential hopeful has to have a cross up their ass, I like to at least know which of them are drinking more of the Kool-Aid than others. This time around the thirstiest seems to be Mike Huckabee, a Republican front runner and former Baptist minister. Aside from crediting divine intervention with some of his political success, he has vocally supported creationism and thinks it should be taught in science class alongside evolution. He also carries the proud right wing tradition of using religion as an excuse for close-minded bigotry, calling homosexuality "an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle." And naturally, he's anti-abortion, anti-stem cells, anti-gay marriage/civil unions - all the ignorant, Bible-inspired goodness you've come to expect from the Christian right. Most recently Huckabee has said that "what we need to do is amend the constitution so it's in God's standards rather than trying to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other..." So, um, by "God," do you mean the Islamic concept of God, Mike? That one? Oh, oh, I'm sorry, you meant the Christian God. The, um, the good one, right? Sorry, my bad.
Surprisingly, the only other major candidate to actually say outright that he doesn't accept evolution is - *gasp* - the beloved Ron Paul. Here is the awkward clip where Paul, a devout Baptist, sent shivers down the spines of his many left-leaning, secular supporters by saying "I think it's a theory, the theory of evolution and I don't accept it as a theory." Ooooh, snap! How's the "theory" of gravity working out for you, Dr. Paul? He also said he didn't think it was an appropriate question to be asking Presidential candidates. Well, it certainly the fuck shouldn't have to be asked, any more than "what's two plus two?" But when we live in a country where so many people actually reject a basic foundation of science, and want to indoctrinate future generations with that kind of thinking, it's a staggeringly appropriate question. Of course, Paul's devotees would probably retort with something to the effect of "Ron Paul would let the states decide how to handle discussion of evolution in their schools, so it doesn't matter what he thinks." Except that going to school is mandatory, and public schools are provided by the state, so incorporating intelligent design into a public school curriculum equates to incorporating religious teachings, and that violates the long-standing restraining order filed by State against its creepy stalker, Church. It's okay though, if President Paul lets the states make that call, I'll just move back to New York and help build a wall to protect us when the next generation of public schooled kids from Arkansas comes around trying to burn down the secular den of sin that is Manhattan.
The rest of the candidates - all of the Democrats and a few of the Republicans (McCain, Giuliani, and Romney), appear to be, whether they even know it or not, "theistic evolutionists." This means they believe in evolution, but also believe in God, so they inherently believe that God had some involvement in the process of evolution. Their varying thoughts on intelligent design in public schools are outlined here. Certainly this is far from the only thing, or even the first thing, you should consider when deciding which candidate to support, but it's something that isn't being talked about much right now, and it shouldn't be forgotten. Fringe Democratic candidate Mike Gravel is the only candidate with the balls to say something truly awesome about the intelligent design issue, and sadly his candor is one of the many reasons why he'll never be President: When asked if creationism should be taught in public schools, he said "Oh, God, no. Oh, Jesus. We thought we had made a big advance with the Scopes monkey trial... My God, evolution is a fact, and if these people are disturbed by being the descendants of monkeys and fishes, they've got a mental problem. We can't afford the psychiatric bill for them. That ends the story as far as I'm concerned." Couldn't have said it better myself, Mike.
The other reason all this is important is because Presidents nominate Supreme Court judges, and it was a Supreme Court judge who famously kept intelligent design out of public schools - at least for now. A President who can't accept fundamental science over his own superstitions, or at least adapt his beliefs to things we know to be true, is not someone who should be picking Supreme Court judges. We've made that mistake, and I think we'd be wise not to make it again. To quote Bill Maher: "Maybe a President who didn't believe our soldiers were going to Heaven might be a little less willing to get them killed."
Last week on his HBO show, Bill Maher responded to the controversy over Hilary Clinton "crying" by asking, somewhat rhetorically, "are we a serious country?" No, Bill, of course we're not. We're a silly, lazy, simple-minded, easily-manipulated country, ready to believe anyone who tells us what we want to hear and any ideology that presents the easiest path from point A to point B. No wonder Kirk Cameron believes bananas are proof that God created the earth. No wonder a douchelord televangelist like Joel Osteen can become so massively successful by telling his millions of believers to just kick back, relax, turn on Everybody Loves Raymond, and let God take care of things. Yup, just believe in God, and everything will be fine. Wow, life is that easy? Sign me up!
Personally, I don't believe in UFOs like Mr. Kucinich, and I don't believe in God like Dr. Paul. But I don't not believe in them either. I believe in science, and thus far, science can neither prove nor disprove either one of those things, so my mind is open. Of course, at this point science has rather drastically disproven the history of mankind as written in the Bible, and that's where things have gotten a bit awkward. With the vastness of the universe and the complexity of life, I suppose believing in some kind of higher power is in our nature. We're too aware for our own good, and we can't stand the horrible, empty feeling that comes with not knowing why we're here, how we got here, or where we're going. It's discomforting to think that we'll never be able to understand all the secrets of the universe. So we make up stories that take care of those concerns very neatly. These stories answer all your questions, they appease all your worries. All you have to do is believe, and the best part is that if you don't like something about the stories you've been told, you can write your own book of slightly different stories and tell other people that your stories are the right ones. You have the truth now. And if that helps you sleep at night, then I'm happy for you, and please, carry on, but don't try to pretend that you have an answer I don't. No one has the answer, and in that sense, Scientology is as real or as unreal as Christianity, or Judaism, or Islam, or Tommy Leeology, or hell, even science. But at least what science offers that religion doesn't is the ability to question, and reason, and re-evaluate, and allow its ideas to, well, evolve based on new information. If factual evidence shows up tomorrow suggesting that our species actually evolved from the fecal matter of giant space turtles, then science will evolve with those new facts, and rewrite the rules based on new evidence. That's the reason the earth is no longer flat, and it's something an unwavering belief in a book of stories can never offer. So please, if you're going to laugh at Scientology and call Tom Cruise a brainwashed lunatic, be sure to play fair and save some venom for all the other religions and their brainwashed lunatics. And, well, I'll just let XKCD conclude this rant more efficiently than I ever could:

Edit: Oh, shit. I wrote all that before seeing Kirk Cameron's definitive proof that evolution isn't real. Fuck! Everything I stood for, debunked so effortlessly, and with such perfect teeth! Well, back to the ol' drawing board...


"No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States" - Article 6 of the United States Constitution
I realize I'm way behind with the final installments of the Demonbaby Awards, but I had to break for a moment to get something off my chest. You see, there's a funny little video going around the internets today. You might have seen it. It features Tom Cruise, the notoriously wacky Scientology overlord, waxing schizophrenic about... well, I'm not even sure what about. The clip is apparently from a Scientology indoctrination video, and the "Church" of Scientology has been furiously ordering removals of it from YouTube due to "copyright violations," and threatening to sue Gawker for hosting it. Here's the video, in case you haven't seen it:
It's wonderfully, utterly batshit insane. He's a fucking lunatic, and he's selling a dangerous scam masquerading as a cult masquerading as a religion. And since they're trying so very hard to keep it out of your tubes, I urge everyone to take a few moments to download the Quicktime version here or here or here or here and upload it to YouTube as many times as you can.
Anyway, the thing about Scientology is that outside of its brainwashed devotees, everyone knows it's crazy, and everyone makes fun of it. Its looney sci-fi overtones make for a delightfully easy target, and the tyranny with which its guardians protect it makes it an even more appealing punching bag. But here's my problem: Relatively speaking, Scientology isn't that crazy. No, really. It isn't. You see, here in the good ol' United States, more than half of our citizens (depending on which poll you look at) happily ignore centuries of overwhelming and exhaustively-researched scientific evidence suggesting human beings have evolved into their present form over millions of years, and instead choose to believe that we were plunked down on the earth fully-formed by a mythical being in the sky, because an old book of parables written by primitive people says so. Americans also believe overwhelmingly in miracles, heaven, hell, and that Jesus is God or the son of God. They like to think they believe all this because of some righteous faith in their soul that sin-laden secular heathens like myself could never understand. In reality, it's because as children they were indoctrinated into believing that The Bible is a book of absolute truths, and The Bible says that God created man in His image, and they'd no sooner want to believe they've been wrong their whole life than I'd want to believe that maybe Saved By The Bell was never actually funny at all, and I was just a twelve year old with bad taste. Come on, Screech had some great one-liners... right?
When I was about four years old, I loved stickers. I loved stickers so much that I stuck them everywhere. Every fucking where. It drove my family crazy. They told me I was no longer allowed to put stickers on walls or furniture or my toys, or I'd be in trouble. So fuck it, I thought, I'll put stickers on myself, and one day I stuck them all over my body. I even stuck one on the end of my tiny little four year old ding-ding, covering up that important hole that pee comes out of. I thought it was funny, and to a four year old, who doesn't even really know what a penis is, having a sticker on the end of it is pretty fucking funny. That is, until I had to pee, and it dawned on me that I'd clogged up the pipes, so to speak, and trying to remove the sticker was painful beyond imagination. At that terrifying moment of realization, the young mind produces one and only one result: Bawling. Loud, desperate, tear-streaked bawling. I had to tell my Mother about the horrible mistake I'd made, and she and my Grandmother had to soak me in warm water to loosen up the glue on the sticker so it could be painlessly removed. Why, you ask, am I telling you this, short of my masochistic desire to frequently embarrass myself on the internet? The point here, really, is to illustrate how fucking dumb I was when I was four years old. How dumb we all were. How we were little sponges, eager to learn, looking to the guidance of our parents and our teachers to tell us how the world worked. And at the same tender age that I covered my pee hole with a sticker, I began attending Sunday school at my local Catholic church. At Sunday school my spongy, impressionable brain was told over and over again that God created the earth, and He created Adam and Eve, and He created me, and He loved me, and Jesus loved me, and all I had to do was love Him back and be a good person and I'd get into Heaven. What a wonderful thing to believe as a child. There's a big bearded guy in the sky watching over me, and He loves me no matter what, and He'll help me through thick and thin, and when my goldfish died he went to a magical place in the sky with the rest of his goldfish family and swam in God's big beautiful goldfish bowl, and someday when I died I'd be there too, and it'd be even better than my life on earth. I bet there are tons of stickers in Heaven, and you can put them anywhere! WOW!
Why wouldn't I believe all that? It sounds great, and hell, I also believed that a magical fairy covertly paid me for my baby teeth, and that a giant bunny rabbit got off on hiding eggs all over my house to celebrate the resurrection of the son of God. Besides, adults were telling me all this stuff, and adults knew lots of things I didn't, like why you shouldn't put stickers over your pee hole. But I guess indoctrination is a delicate process, because somewhere along the way, it was too much for me. Later in life it pushed a little too hard, and I stopped buying into it. I think it was when I stopped going to Sunday school and started attending regular mass, and Catholicism revealed itself as being more about guilt than love, and church was the most boring fucking thing I could have ever imagined. I started asking questions my Mother couldn't answer. I started drawing mean caricatures of our priests on the collection slips and leaving them in the Bibles for people to find. I started to call bullshit on the whole ordeal, and my poor Mother, her own faith having grown fragile over the years, could no longer defend it. And that was that. I got out. Most people in that situation aren't so lucky, and hence, America is overwhelmingly populated by people who believe in Santa Claus. He may be skinny and shirtless and pinned to a cross, but he's still Santa Claus.
If I have children and, as their sole voice of guidance in their crucial formative years, tell them that Tommy Lee was an earthly vessel of the almighty Creator, and His autobiography Tommyland contained the universal truths for all mankind and the keys to salvation, and anyone who felt otherwise was simply a misguided soul destined for eternal damnation lest they be awaked to the sacred truths of Tommy Lee... Well, I'd end up with a pretty fucked up kid, but by the time he'd reached adulthood with these superstitions drilled into his brain day after day, you'd have a damned hard time convincing him his beliefs were wrong.
The problem here is that because Christianity is old and widely-believed, we're meant to inherently accept its fairy tales as somehow more credible than Scientology's fairy tales, when really, they're the same fucking thing. So why is it okay to make fun of Scientology in a country that takes Christianity so seriously? Why is it common knowledge that Scientology is a cult that scams people out of money and uses devious tactics to lure people into its teachings, but no one wants to admit the same things about Christian churches? Why is Tom Cruise a lunatic for saying whatever the hell he said in that video, but we'll gladly elect a President who thinks the earth was made in seven days? Why is poor Dennis Kucinich lampooned for saying he saw a UFO, but we're perfectly comfortable with all the other Presidential candidates worshipping an omnipotent being? If you get right down to it, UFOs have far more scientific basis than omnipotent beings.
I wish religion was, like anal beads and Everybody Loves Raymond, something that people practiced privately, in their homes, and it was an individual matter that rarely intruded on my life. Because theoretically, I really don't care what you believe in. I don't give two shits if you worship Jesus or Allah or Brett Favre or The Force or little fucking forest gnomes. In theory, it makes no difference to me whether your idea of a religious experience is saying ten Hail Marys, or nailing your balls to a wooden plank while defacating. It should be no concern of mine. But these fucking fundamentalist Christians have unfortunately made it my business and everyone's business, and because of their insistence on meddling with science and politics, I now have to try and figure out who's the least superstitious Presidential candidate. I wish it would never even occur to me that the prospective leader of the free world might, in the 21st century, reject a basic foundation of science. But alas, this is the dumb, credulous kindergarten class known as America, where, much to the snickering bemusement of Europe and the rest of the developed world, our political leaders have to show up on TV kneeling in front of a cross at Sunday mass to even be considered a candidate for Commander in Chief. And that, sadly, makes religion an important issue - because religion has begun threatening science, and if we start tearing away at science, we risk losing what little sense of reason and logic our country still has left to hold onto.
In case you hadn't noticed, we're in the early stages of an insulting sham of a Presidential election process right now. But as flawed as the system might be, it's still going to result in a new leader of our fragile empire, and no matter who you vote for, on either side of the political fence, you're voting for someone reared on a theology no less absurd than anything Tom Cruise believes in. In this election there are arguably more important issues - like trying to undo eight years of imperialistic insanity and fiscal irresponsibility. But I think a person's ability to weigh out religious beliefs against scientific facts says a lot about their character and informs all their decisions - and since every Presidential hopeful has to have a cross up their ass, I like to at least know which of them are drinking more of the Kool-Aid than others. This time around the thirstiest seems to be Mike Huckabee, a Republican front runner and former Baptist minister. Aside from crediting divine intervention with some of his political success, he has vocally supported creationism and thinks it should be taught in science class alongside evolution. He also carries the proud right wing tradition of using religion as an excuse for close-minded bigotry, calling homosexuality "an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle." And naturally, he's anti-abortion, anti-stem cells, anti-gay marriage/civil unions - all the ignorant, Bible-inspired goodness you've come to expect from the Christian right. Most recently Huckabee has said that "what we need to do is amend the constitution so it's in God's standards rather than trying to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other..." So, um, by "God," do you mean the Islamic concept of God, Mike? That one? Oh, oh, I'm sorry, you meant the Christian God. The, um, the good one, right? Sorry, my bad.
Surprisingly, the only other major candidate to actually say outright that he doesn't accept evolution is - *gasp* - the beloved Ron Paul. Here is the awkward clip where Paul, a devout Baptist, sent shivers down the spines of his many left-leaning, secular supporters by saying "I think it's a theory, the theory of evolution and I don't accept it as a theory." Ooooh, snap! How's the "theory" of gravity working out for you, Dr. Paul? He also said he didn't think it was an appropriate question to be asking Presidential candidates. Well, it certainly the fuck shouldn't have to be asked, any more than "what's two plus two?" But when we live in a country where so many people actually reject a basic foundation of science, and want to indoctrinate future generations with that kind of thinking, it's a staggeringly appropriate question. Of course, Paul's devotees would probably retort with something to the effect of "Ron Paul would let the states decide how to handle discussion of evolution in their schools, so it doesn't matter what he thinks." Except that going to school is mandatory, and public schools are provided by the state, so incorporating intelligent design into a public school curriculum equates to incorporating religious teachings, and that violates the long-standing restraining order filed by State against its creepy stalker, Church. It's okay though, if President Paul lets the states make that call, I'll just move back to New York and help build a wall to protect us when the next generation of public schooled kids from Arkansas comes around trying to burn down the secular den of sin that is Manhattan.
The rest of the candidates - all of the Democrats and a few of the Republicans (McCain, Giuliani, and Romney), appear to be, whether they even know it or not, "theistic evolutionists." This means they believe in evolution, but also believe in God, so they inherently believe that God had some involvement in the process of evolution. Their varying thoughts on intelligent design in public schools are outlined here. Certainly this is far from the only thing, or even the first thing, you should consider when deciding which candidate to support, but it's something that isn't being talked about much right now, and it shouldn't be forgotten. Fringe Democratic candidate Mike Gravel is the only candidate with the balls to say something truly awesome about the intelligent design issue, and sadly his candor is one of the many reasons why he'll never be President: When asked if creationism should be taught in public schools, he said "Oh, God, no. Oh, Jesus. We thought we had made a big advance with the Scopes monkey trial... My God, evolution is a fact, and if these people are disturbed by being the descendants of monkeys and fishes, they've got a mental problem. We can't afford the psychiatric bill for them. That ends the story as far as I'm concerned." Couldn't have said it better myself, Mike.
The other reason all this is important is because Presidents nominate Supreme Court judges, and it was a Supreme Court judge who famously kept intelligent design out of public schools - at least for now. A President who can't accept fundamental science over his own superstitions, or at least adapt his beliefs to things we know to be true, is not someone who should be picking Supreme Court judges. We've made that mistake, and I think we'd be wise not to make it again. To quote Bill Maher: "Maybe a President who didn't believe our soldiers were going to Heaven might be a little less willing to get them killed."
Last week on his HBO show, Bill Maher responded to the controversy over Hilary Clinton "crying" by asking, somewhat rhetorically, "are we a serious country?" No, Bill, of course we're not. We're a silly, lazy, simple-minded, easily-manipulated country, ready to believe anyone who tells us what we want to hear and any ideology that presents the easiest path from point A to point B. No wonder Kirk Cameron believes bananas are proof that God created the earth. No wonder a douchelord televangelist like Joel Osteen can become so massively successful by telling his millions of believers to just kick back, relax, turn on Everybody Loves Raymond, and let God take care of things. Yup, just believe in God, and everything will be fine. Wow, life is that easy? Sign me up!
Personally, I don't believe in UFOs like Mr. Kucinich, and I don't believe in God like Dr. Paul. But I don't not believe in them either. I believe in science, and thus far, science can neither prove nor disprove either one of those things, so my mind is open. Of course, at this point science has rather drastically disproven the history of mankind as written in the Bible, and that's where things have gotten a bit awkward. With the vastness of the universe and the complexity of life, I suppose believing in some kind of higher power is in our nature. We're too aware for our own good, and we can't stand the horrible, empty feeling that comes with not knowing why we're here, how we got here, or where we're going. It's discomforting to think that we'll never be able to understand all the secrets of the universe. So we make up stories that take care of those concerns very neatly. These stories answer all your questions, they appease all your worries. All you have to do is believe, and the best part is that if you don't like something about the stories you've been told, you can write your own book of slightly different stories and tell other people that your stories are the right ones. You have the truth now. And if that helps you sleep at night, then I'm happy for you, and please, carry on, but don't try to pretend that you have an answer I don't. No one has the answer, and in that sense, Scientology is as real or as unreal as Christianity, or Judaism, or Islam, or Tommy Leeology, or hell, even science. But at least what science offers that religion doesn't is the ability to question, and reason, and re-evaluate, and allow its ideas to, well, evolve based on new information. If factual evidence shows up tomorrow suggesting that our species actually evolved from the fecal matter of giant space turtles, then science will evolve with those new facts, and rewrite the rules based on new evidence. That's the reason the earth is no longer flat, and it's something an unwavering belief in a book of stories can never offer. So please, if you're going to laugh at Scientology and call Tom Cruise a brainwashed lunatic, be sure to play fair and save some venom for all the other religions and their brainwashed lunatics. And, well, I'll just let XKCD conclude this rant more efficiently than I ever could:

Edit: Oh, shit. I wrote all that before seeing Kirk Cameron's definitive proof that evolution isn't real. Fuck! Everything I stood for, debunked so effortlessly, and with such perfect teeth! Well, back to the ol' drawing board...



107 Comments:
Once again, you are my hero. Thank you for this.
some of the points in this i agree with so much.
but if i get into talking about religion i'll start sounding like a bitch.
so, completely unrelated: i don't know whether you've seen this or not, but i thought it was interesting. http://www.flickr.com/photos/library_of_congress/
I wish I could articulate my thoughts on religion as well as you have. I mean, verbally I'm down for the challenge but I'd have to spend a few days editing a blog on it. Heh.
Either way, thank you for being one of the many voices of reason. It's disheartening that there are so many sheep worldwide.. I've been questioning the notion of God since I was in elementary school, much to the chagrin of my parents. Wooh, they did not like hearing that I didn't believe in Jesus.
20 years later?
I still don't.
The minute this tom cruise video fervor took off, one of the first things that came to my mind was the rampant hypocrisy you're pointing to -- everybody ganging up on Scientology/Tom Cruise alone because it's the 'in' thing to do, while ignoring the bigger issues completely. It makes me sick.
Frankly speaking, the video is weird. Very weird. And it's ridiculous that the Church of Scientology would be using Cruise as a spokesperson, while claiming that he's nothing more than a normal parishoner. Completely see-through.
But at the end of the day, crazy or not, it's who they are. And on that note, they shouldn't be in such a frenzy trying to shield it from the eyes of the public, not unless they're afraid of being revealed to be even more of a sham than everybody already knows.
For what it's worth, as crazy as Cruise seems, I'd rather (much rather) listen to him flap his gums than listen to the likes of Ray Comfort, Kirk Cameron, or Mike Huckabee -- three of the most nauseating, disgustingly dishonest human beings I've ever witnessed in my twenty-seven years of life.
What's reason number one to embrace science? It's our only hope in the case of an alien invasion!
We continue to diligently assemble and train a new generation of scientists and technicians. For what the Combine fear the most is not any tangible human weapon, but our will, our intellect, our ability to respond selectively and rationally to every terror they turn against us. We place our firmest hope in the human spirit, even knowing how easily it may be shattered.
- Dr. Isaac Kleiner (Half Life2) on the invasion of Earth
Just messing around. Nice job on the article, Rob.
Speaking as someone who does believe in some sort of higher power (and science), I personally believe that the world needs to move away from the old conceptions of god, and onto a new more universal understanding of spirituality (I've read a lot of Deepak Chopra). Make him more of an abstract ideal, or force rather than a concrete thing. If that happened you wouldn't have douche bags like all of those crazy fundamentalist ministers or Dawkins, vocalizing incredibly small minorities, with undue fanfare, (fundamental Christianity, and militant Atheism respectively.) Cause frankly both sides piss me the hell off.
marry me.
This article is why I am in love with you.
Wonderful! Thank you!
this was such a great blog!!!! love what u wrote, can totally relate to it!!!! I think it's the same all over the world though! I come from Mexico and things aren't that much better with our catholic right-wing (don't let them hear me say that!). I even had the priest at school call me a heretic and an apostate for even suggesting that Nietzsche should be taught at school LOL!!! Greetings from Barcelona!!!
JP
Great blog, and lots of good points.
I tend to not say anything about any one religion, because that just gives everyone the right to ridicule me for my beliefs. Just like the whole Scientology/Christianity thing. I love what you said, that everyone should privately have a religion in their own home, without intruding upon anyone else's life. But sadly, that is only idealistic, not reality.
This whole branch of topics is a difficult thing for me to think about, but I had to say something because you word everything so wonderfully that I have to give you something back. Even if I am rather non-coherent.
This reminds me, how at the age of four, I too was in Sunday School, only at a Baptist church. One Sunday the topic was Creation and those six days had me soooo confused. I couldn't figure out where the dinosaurs fit in. How could they die millions of years before humans existed *and* be created in the same week that humans were? The seed of doubt was kindled at a very young age. Though being the shy little girl I was (and am), I never spoke up about my doubts in Sunday School.
I'm still Christian, by the way, but not Baptist. Science makes way more sense to me than the Bible being treated as fact. It's a book, a product of its times. All these Fundamentalist peeps need to learn that.
I couldn't agree more. It is scary how we were able to come to these conclusions as children but most of the country still believes. Where does that leave people like us? People need to stop using religion as a crutch. It certainly is easier to say that things like stem cell research are wrong because "God says so" and turn your head to it, than to have to sort out the whole sticky situation with hard work. You can have morels and ethics without religion, especially with science on your side.
I also think it's funny that they all have so much trouble with killing babies but make no qualms about creating babies that maybe shouldn't have been there in the first place (i.e. IFV, hormone therapy, ICSI, egg/sperm donation...etc.). Not that I am saying the two are exactly the same, but what exactly is religions stance on artificially created life? I know they are against cloning, but where does that leave children conceived in a lab with gametes that did not come from their parents? Because when you think about it- minus god and this whole procreation fetish- that just doesn't seem right.
I suppose I went a little off topic, but I just couldn't help myself.
first congratulations for the blog!
i really share and agree with your point of view.
well about "why people tend to believe in metaphors and mythical stories explaining all the questions in their heads"... i compare it by taking an analgesic when your teeth hurt... it stops the pain for the moment!
just a curiosity...
recently a university in Italy made a petition saying "you're not welcome here, go away! you F..ck" to the Pope.
you can view the story here:
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/01/15/pope.protest/index.html
"Pope Benedict XVI has canceled a planned visit to a prestigious Italian university after a protest by academics and students attacked his views on Galileo, the Vatican confirmed Tuesday."
i really believe, that in the future, things will take a turn.
generally, people tend to a "Atheist-way-of-see-things"
..well at least some parts of the globe... it's a start!
i say this,because, now people have more and more access to information, all kind of information!
in my country, our government doesn't have any kind of religious tendency! in fact, our prime minister, is Gay( i'm not joking..he is really gay)
i'm not saying that my country is more evolved...! my point here, is that this kind of changes take time!
looking back to the history, all the turning points, in religious and existential issues, were hard to implement in people's mind, for example Galileo...
well, anyway! thank you for sharing your point of view ( which i totally agree).
thank you.
Thank you. Just...THANK YOU.
No witty response to add here, but just wanted to thank you, yet again, for writing out what needs to be vocalized.
Someone here at work tried very hard to get me to post the video to our site, and I refused. I started to get into the reasons why we shouldn't be knocking down Scientology when there's equivalent craziness out there in every single belief system, but his eyes just glazed over into that "I have faith and you don't, so I've effectively stopped listening to you now" lifeless stare. In the end, to snap him out of his fugue state, I told him that I was concerned about the litigious nature of those involved with the video, and he backed down.
So basically, he's man of faith, who's scared of logic and fact-based work of lawyers. Hmmm...
Anyway, thanks!
I was about to write something very similar to this article after having read the Wikipedia entry on Xenu. Point driven.
Just wanted to say that MANY people in Arkansas absolutely despise Mike Huckabee and are extremely worried about his growing popularity. I wish more news sources would actually come to Arkansas and do some research about his history here and why politicians and people from both parties are horrified at the thought of him getting the nomination.
Read this article and find out why there are several reasons to be worried about Huckabee in addition to his insane religious beliefs.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/11/13/huckabee/
or maybe you're a brainwashed believer in science.
ben: he actually acknowledged that science is as true or untrue as religion, but he pointed out its distinct advantage: science asks questions and re-evaluates itself. it learns and adapts instead of being rooted in some "truth" that can never change.
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Yeah, he did. I'm not really sure what point Rob is trying to make here. I guess it was that anyone that believes in God should be laughed at equally? Ha Ha Ha..praise you angsty Rob. You're so intellergergent!! LOLERZ!
I'm sorry but comparing Christianity to a rich boys RPG cult religion is offensive.
born again christians "see the light" -
atheists realize that there *is* no light, just a swarm of fireflies.
and while they're pretty, when it comes down to it, they're still just bugs.
after being raised on a steady stream of bigoted Syrian-Sephardic Judaism, i am so glad that atheists are speaking up.
If you have yet to see this site take a browse, I think you'll like it.
http://www.fstdt.com/
I don't care what Tom is saying, I just want him to shut up and fuck me.
He's still HAWT.
Hey Rob, again I have to agree.Have you seen the debate about god's existance on Nightline ? I am just watching it on youtube, its hilarious..
"I'm sorry but comparing Christianity to a rich boys RPG cult religion is offensive."
you are playing into his whole point. why is it offensive to make fun of christianity, but not offensive to make fun of scientology? sorry but christianity is a rich boys cult too, just a much older one.
Rob, sweethart, you think like a forging Spiritualist....always learning.And you still have a sense of humanitarian and good judgement. You never cease to amaze my little knowledge of you. Dragonrosecharm~
the Anal beads / Every one Loves Raymond comment is pure comic gold!!!
File this under "Reasons why America is most likely Doomed".
The thing that absolutely worries me about Scientology is exactly what you pointed out about Christianity - namely, the amount of power and influence these organizations have accrued that allows them to affect our basic rights. Look at South Park. That show has offended nearly everyone at least once, but very few people have come as close to actually having episodes of the show banned as Scientology and Christianity have. Money speaks louder than laws and these two groups have enough of it to keep a lot of people on a short rope for fear of being tied up in meaningless court cases. Who needs to actually change the first amendment when you can just threaten slander and have corporations scramble to do your bidding lest they lose money over something as silly as freedom of speech?
Now, I've never thought I was a smart person and I've made my fair share of mistakes, when I was 7 my Mum told me she had got me a present... I was to close my eyes while she gave it to me and I remember hoping it was a cross I could put in my room. It was an etchasketch. I was upset (WTF?!). But it only took me til double figures (i.e 10) to realise that science could ACTUALLY prove things. I cannnot understand people who have proof waved at them time and time again yet choose to look away and believe in any kind of fictional being. Just... why would you do that?! It makes me so angry I can't begin to explain as fluently as you. Not to suck your cock anymore than it has been but it's so refreshing that someone in your posistion isn't playing to the masses to wank your ego. You know people read this, you know why they're here in the first place but I've yet to see you cash in on that fact. You always speak your mind and the world really does need more people like you.
I wish I could believe in a God. I wish I could take the shit of daily life, think "Well, nevermind, cos when I die I'm in for a fun time!" and just get on with it. I envy the naïve and maybe that's why I get so angry about it but for fucks sake... just pull your fucking heads out of the sand simultaneously and most of the worlds problems would be solved.
okay so I just watched the Tom Cruise video.
WOW!
I mean, that was barely coherent!!!
And the Mission Impossible theme song?
mind boggling!!!
I guess by that same token we can't make fun of anything. I don't care. You can believe and say whatever you want.
I just get so irritated by this pseudo-intellectual group of people involved in the religion of science. They act like they're this elite group always outnumbered but better than everyone because they think they're using logic. But God knows they aren't scientists. They're just taking somebody else's explanation for the truth. Honestly, I don't think they want to believe in a God because they're either angry at him, or they're angry at the world.
Yes, all religions have corrupt aspects, but Christianity is truly a reality and about one on one relationship with God.
Or , Ben,
We make fun of everything!
Which is by far a better choice!!!
=D
And atheists are not mad at god, because they can't be mad at some one that doesn't exist.
And even if they do harbor anger at the "world" or the church, that doesn't invalidate their arguments of doubt.
That just means they are human.
And Cynic of the year award goes to....ROB.congrats!
to yoshata and rob, a country like France DOES have public secularism.There Religioussymbols in schools and public, including muslim headscarves, crucifixes, yamulkes are banned by the government. The flip side to this is it allows discrimination against Muslim girls and women,who r kicked out or leave school because they feel obligated to wear headscarves as part of their religion. Its an underhanded and subtle way of discrimination because French ppl pretty much fear&hate their immigrant Arab, Muslim population, and this secularism allows them to assimilate them to French ways.So,maybe the U.S policy of accepting all and allowing everyone to express their faith equally, is better overall than this forced public suppression of all religion.thoughts?
God's ridged banana won't squirt in your face???
Sorry Rob... he still loves you.
As someone who comes from the bass ackwards land of evangelical protestantism, allow me to say a hearty "Amen." (Which I have been taught in sunday school translates to "Let it be so.")
People may disagree, but I think so much of religious fixation comes from people's desire for a sense of security and stability, and perhaps even more so for their children. I don't have kids and I imagine you don't either, but after working through my own issues with my parents over their religion and my rejection of it, I can honestly say I believe their hearts are in the right place. Maybe just not their heads. Parents want to give their children something permanent about the world to hold onto. Science is a weak substitute for this. Just something to consider.
Craig Ferguson had this skit, He was Tom and it was so dead on...
Someone or something fucked him (Tom C.)in the head and I think even he don't know what he is talking about! :D
Thing that I hate the most on this planet is religion - it dosen't matter what - Buddhism, Islam.. whatever.. it sucks! It is the cause of all fights and wars in world..
Stupid people.
its the "us" vs. "them" dilemma
us being the fundamentalists christians who see all other ["them"] spiritual ideas as completely ludicrous
such hardheaded people =/
btw i tried to get on your site at school but was blocked by websense since it was categorized as "tasteless" . i literally lol'ed
Look, if you're going to say that evolution is absolutely true and should unquestionably be believed in, you're no better than any religious fundamentalist.
Evolution is a theory. Nothing more. It has not been proven to be 100% airtight; rather, it seems to be the most logical explanation of the evidence available at the moment. That's how science works. We theorise, and test our theories. If we're successful, our theory stands until it's disproven and the generation indoctrinated into believing it dies out, making way for a new generation indocrinated into believing the theory that has replaced it.
I believe in evolution. I am also a Christian in that I believe in God and in that I agree with Jesus' teachings concerning the fine art of not being a dick. The guy had some pretty cool ideas. I'm not sure whether or not I believe in most of what the Bible says (it is, as you say, essentially a collection of old parables), but Jesus' existence is fairly well-documented, if only as a man. I'm sure I don't believe in the Catholic or Protestant Churches, given their history (I'm from England). Still, I can think of no other explanation for the Universe's existence than that there is some sort of higher being, or even some source of energy or something of which I can't conceive, responsible for it. That's what I mean when I refer to God. If anyone provides solid evidence that I'm wrong, I'll stand corrected.
(Yes, I believe in the Big Bang, and the idea of the Universe constantly expanding and contracting seems viable. However, there has to be somewhere for those events to occur. They can't happen in a non-place. How, then, did the place in which they happen come to exist?)
I agree with the general thrust of your post, though.
Oh, and I agree with the first two sentences of the second paragraph of ben's last post, but he kinda loses me after that. As for you, e. kubinek, ben never used the word "atheist". There is a clear difference between not believing in ben's Christian God and not believing in any gods at all.
Apologies for the double post.
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thanks for the great read!
You know that 53% of Americans wouldn't vote for an atheist for president? which means statistically whoever you vote in MUST be christian.
Sorry that I don't remember where I found that statistic, but I remembered it well.
-Doug
"It's wonderfully, utterly batshit insane. He's a fucking lunatic"
This is coming from a minion of Trent Reznor. Kind of like the pot handle calling the kettle black.
"Evolution is a theory. Nothing more."
Yeah, like gravity.
Evolution is one of the most robust theories in science supported by exhaustive evidence in every branch of science. Certainly there are still questions about smaller points(which will eventually be answered as more information comes in and discoveries are made) but the theory itself is sound.
For anyone interested, google "15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense" and it will lead you to an very good article published in Scientific American
"Christianity is truly a reality and about one on one relationship with God."
Right, because a tiny group of illiterate barbarians stuck in the middle of a crappy desert millenia ago have answers to life and morality appropriate for a 21st century world. They weren't even at the top of the class for their time: the ancient Greeks, Romans and Chinese had their shit together better than these dorks.
They were wrong about just about everything else, there's no way they're right about the true nature of the universe.
Rob, let's say as of tomorrow, every person on earth becomes an atheist. What changes? Peace on earth? Is that what you think? Everyone's just going to wake up and suddenly be so wonderfully enlightened as you? Making such a huge fucking difference in the world better through a blog?
The Bible, Tanakh, etc., yeah, of course there are holes - the writings are *thousands* of years old and have gone through many translations. A lot of writings aren't available to the public thanks to the Vatican. Some haven't been discovered, some will never be discovered. But the locations are there, artifacts have been found and through SCIENCE their age is accurate so should we discount those?
Regardless, Christianity, Judaism, etc. all boil down to "Love your neighbor as yourself." No, really.
When you touched a hot stove as a kid, did you blame the stove, your mom for telling you to not touch it or yourself?
Until your ass goes back in time and comes back with proof that nothing in the Bible happened, I won't believe in you.
So the theme of this message is:
"Stop making fun of Scientology, starting making fun of Christianity"?
Classy. Grow up, dude.
no very clearly the message is: it's hypocritical to make fun of scientology but take other religions seriously, because they're effectively the same thing.
anonymous: if you'd actually bother to read the post, in no way is he advocating atheism. he's advocating people keeping their religions to themselves and not letting it interfere with science and politics. science isn't about atheism, it's about things that can be proven in the real world. if someone finds proof of god then god will become part of science, but until then you can believe in both god and science, or just science, but ignoring science because it contradicts with old myths is ridiculous. and even more ridiculous is politics preferring a particular religion in a country that is a melting pot of many different religions.
Indeed, I quite agree with you sir...if perchance you wanted to see pretty much the same opinion but with less words and gravitas, and more amusing photos and swear words, you should read my blog www.speechesofbiches.blogspot.com
Or just come to kick my arse for the flagrant self promotion..
la biche x
Because of your article, I realized that I knew very little beyond the generic "Lord xenu did bosnia/serbia" story, I looked deeper into things and stumbled upon http://www.xenu.net/ and http://whyaretheydead.net/ While I'm not one to be swayed just because somebody has enough time to create a website, there is a substantial amount of evidence against scientologists acting within the bounds of the law. I won't pretend that other religions aren't also guilty of just kinda being assholes (namely the crusades come to mind), these people have gone far beyond what most religions do, taking everything as a personal affront against themselves, infact, because we know they're fucking insane means we should not let them fuck with whomever they want, hell, it was common knowledge back ten years ago that they had people inside every major American govt. org.. You bring up good points about things like the utter lack of any remnants of logic in most of America's voting decisions, though. This prolly isn't exactly coherent, but hopefully you get the idea, these people are more overtly powerful than those of older religions and are far more radical (in a bad way).
"The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church."
--Ferdinand Magellan
have you seen it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trapped_in_the_Closet_(South_Park)
you fucking rock, rob.
Three words for you: Book of Mormon. I have never been able to figure out how ANYONE believes the story behind it.
Ah, a rebirth of "polemics" and "apologetics". Some argue that the foundation of American Democracy was built on the Pilgrim's belief in Puritanism, and that the "hard-working, egalitarian" lifestyle that they led is what brought about the economic discipline of the current state of the country... I suppose a sort of economic Determinism. There's an interesting book, "Hellfire Nation" by James Monroe, and in it he suggests that the opposing beliefs of Puritans, which are their desire for a "just" society, but one in which religious morals are upheld, creates contradicting views that forms paranoia and prejudice towards the viewpoints of others...hence the current political landscape... It's ironic that a group that escaped religious intolerance would create a similar landscape for diaspora.
Hey Rob,
Loved the post.
I think your critique of belief/faith is on point!
I would expand on it though to include certain aspects of science though, ex: Economics
...The hidden hand of the market controlling supply and demand, is also very naive and we have whole sections of newspapers devoted to it. As with religion some science is manipulated by big money, just look at all the oil money behind climate change negationists.
I fucking love you, man. SO MUCH.
As someone who was actually raised atheist (we are a rare species), the whole religion obsession in this country is so far beyond my realm of comprehension that I don't even have the words for it. So I'm glad that you do. Because really, it's not the Scientologists or the Mormons or the Evangelicals or even the Regular Fairly-Sane Christians that are goddamned crazy. IT'S ALL OF THEM.
When the fine city of New York eventually secedes from the rest of the U.S., I insist you come back here, to your One True Home: The Secular Den of Sin. We accept crazy, but not religious crazy.
I hate leaving comments but i couldnt help it. I really dislike it when people seperate religion and science. Apparently this will be shocking to you but they go hand in hand. Unless your a fundalmentalist then you cant take the bible literally. Its mostly a big metaphor...how lovely is that? So science it does work but so does religion. Its too bad your mother couldnt answer your questions because some of the most puzzeling questions have the simplest answers. But anywho scientology is pretty bugged out and i wonder what katie has to say about all this, however we do have to respect it and what not.
Firstly, I think some people here need to find a dictionary and look up "atheism". And then look up "agnosticism". Two very different things.
If nothing else I read Rob's blog post to be more agnostic than anything. And being of that belief myself, it's something I felt needed to be pointed out since people seem to get them confused.
Also reading the comments again, I feel compelled to reply to elo. Science and Religion are apples and oranges. You can't take standards from a faith-based institution and apply it to a logic-based one (and vice-versa). It just doesn't work. Science and scientific theory is deeply rooted in being able to prove things. Especially if you hope to have an ounce of credibility in the scientific community.
Religion is entirely different. You could claim to be a prophet and technically not HAVE to prove anything. It's up to people's faith as to whether or not they believe you.
I could sit here and point out all the inaccuracies and contradictions in the bible until I'm blue in the face, but what would be the point?
But I could believe that the sky is green all I want, all you have to do is point at the sky and prove me wrong. That's kind of the gist of science.
I guess you could also separate it into what's tangible and what isn't.
Another reason I think religion should be separated from science and politics. Just keep it to things we all can see so we can all be on the same page. o_O
You must read Richard Dawkins' '
"The God Delusion" if you haven't. It seems like half the world has and I've been living under a rock, but you must read the book, as it expands on a lot of the ideas you expressed in this post, and with hiliarous anecdotes as well. You'd enjoy it.
"I wish religion was, like anal beads and Everybody Loves Raymond" quite possibly the best clause ever written. And yay for lapsed Catholics!
Ever heard of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
I finally read the bit about Gravel, and while it's great that he publicly states that, he's kinda wrong. Scopes lost his monkey trial. Evolution wasn't taught in Kansas until the federal gov't decreed it so because Sputnik was in the skies above us while our kids were learning that science was bad.
Rebuttal to Kirk Cameron's idiocy
It's kinda long, but worth a watch. And yes, as an agnostic, I find all religions to be crazy, although it seems some are crazier than others at times. Scientology and all the various branches of Christianity, or any other religion that breeds large numbers of super-fundies are at the top of my list.
∞X∞
Rob,
While I dugg this post the day you sent me the request to, I didn't actually have time to read it until tonight.... I'm extremely sad and disappointed in myself about this since it might be the most brilliant fucking thing you have ever written.
I think you need to submit this for syndication.
XO
Eileen
Bravo; you've elegantly taken the words out of my mouth on most of the issue. That said, there are two things I feel you needed to address.
The first is this: just because the belief in a Magic Man in the Sky who fathered a cosmic Jewish zombie is as ridiculous as the belief in Xenu, Thetans and the rest of that scientologist nonsense, this is far from meaning we should leave Scientology alone. Yes, ganging up on Cruise, Hubbard and friends is hypocritical in the light of the influence of mainstream religious extremism the likes of with can be found by reading anything about the US' current presidential race. This doesn't change the fact that scientology is a money-grabbing cult run by a bunch of madmen with complete disregard for the rest of humanity (in the same way that a lot of Christianity, Judaism, Islam and Buddhism is). Scientology is the smaller, easier to tackle and less ingrained in the mores version of most accepted religions; there's no point in letting it run amok whilst we lament the fact that we can't get people to come to their sense short of rounding them up and putting them in "reformation camps."
The second point is, belief in science is as bad as belief in religion. To blindly accept whatever the current norms are in the field of scientific research is as unscientific as to blindly accept the existence of God, Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Xenu or any other religious figure is. By right, it should be viewed as as much of a crime against Reason as faith is.
Boy, am I ever glad I live in Europe (although, what with the Spanish having just granted scientology the status of religion...). I just hope the ICJ will start putting people on trial for crimes against Reason as soon as possible. ¬_¬
No. Just no.
Okay, yes, the beliefs of Christians aren't particularly more sane than that of Scientologists, nor do their greater numbers excuse their belief. But the focus on why Scientology needs to be destroyed has nothing to do with how silly they are, but how dangerous their Church is.
When author Paulette Cooper wrote a book exposing the Church, they responded by breaking into her apartment and forging bomb threats on her typewriter. This was not the work of an outraged rogue, but a highly detailed plan to destroy her life that originated from the leadership of the Guardian's Office. Scientology critic Keith Henson suddenly found himself under arrest for cracking a joke about "Tom Cruise missiles" online, and fled to asylum in Canada. And the Church's Operation Snow White, an infiltration of some 5,000 covert agents into the IRS to purge unfavorable records, remains the single largest infiltration of the United States government to this day.
These sorts of actions are routine for the Church of Scientology. Whenever someone speaks out against them, they move to crush that person's life in every means available to them. They commit unspeakable evils to which Christianity has no analog. I, too, am an atheist, and I have no respect for blind faith, but I recognize that Christianity and Scientology are not comparable.
I love those comics that you link to.
This one reminds me of what we all need to watch out for in the coming months...
http://www.xkcd.com/154/
Amen Rob,
Although I wasn't brought up Catholic, our coming out of the Agonostic/Athiest closet stories are quite similar. I could never figure out why the people around me couldn't come to the same conclusions.
Speaking of closets, my "theory (not meant in the strict scientific sense but in the popular vernacular sense)" is that poor old Tom will believe anything that keeps him from being perceived as gay in the public eye. It provides him with a nice hideout from which he can plot purchasing a wife, and he and his longtime lover Miscavage can canoodle in private. Well, it's just a "theory" anyway.
As far as I'm concerned all religions are cults and are totally whack. The world would be so much better off without them at this point. But sadly we (as a people) are not nearly as advanced or enlightened as some of us like to think we are.
Thanks again. Love the Demonbaby!
if you haven't already, read carl sagan's "varieties of scientific experience". it's your type of book, i think.
I defend the choice to make fun of Scientology on one vital point- It's a gateway to atheism that can be approached by any somewhat thinking person of any walk of life, from any religion. It plants the seeds of doubt in minds that have otherwise accepted the bible as reasonably factual.
Most people who are reasonably informed ab